Posts by Bill Covert

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Bewildering Background revealing who stopped slavery in the world

by Terry in

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bewildering background.

even among the greatest religious thinkers and moral philosophers of civilizations around the world for 1000’s of years slavery was not considered a moral issue.. only one civilization developed a “moral revulsion” against it very late in its history:western civilization.. abraham lincoln said:if slavery is not considered wrong; nothing can be considered as wrong.. but why did not even the leading moralists among other nations and civilizations reject slavery at all?.

there is no evidence that slavery came under attack in any other part of the world before the 18th century.

Bill Covert

Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Justice Clarence Thomas, all three expound on the exact same theme as to the dismal state of race relations to day, the liberal "Great Society" of Lynden Johnson. They take the position that the civil rights legislation was much needed but they all three take the position that the welfare system introduced in the "Great Society" part was the bed rock for todays inability for young blacks to lead productive lives [not much different for young whites].

Sowell and Williams both said there is only one other POTUS they refused besides Trump to watch on TV which was Obama.

PBS had a special on Justice Thomas and I got to YouTubing Sowell [i enjoyed his column several years ago in local paper] and Williams. I learned a lot.

Probably old hat for this site but for any not familure of the history of the hymn "Amazing Grace" it is a interesting read.

Good post.

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Court confirms:--Severe Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses is Justified!

by Atlantis in

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court confirms: severe criticism of jehovah's witnesses is justified!.

https://docdro.id/axa555i.

petra!.

Bill Covert

I wish to thank you from the bottom my heart. That is very important material for my 30 year project in Redding Calif.. I have been waiting for the courthouses to open so Zalkin Law Firm will be able to file the law suites from the 2020 Calif., New York, New Jersey giving victims a year window of removing statute of limitations. That will have a major impact on my Redding project. But this is tremendous.

Thanks big time!

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Letter writing question

by carla in

so the jw's are no longer goind d2d but instead are writing letters- my question is what return address are they putting on the letters?

their own or the kh?

the kh's in our area have no mailbox and therefore no mail can be delivered or returned to a kh.. thanks in advance!.

Bill Covert

I use a Kingdom Hall address.

In the 2013 convention discourse "Human Apostates" they talk about a new tactic of apostates writing local publishers homes, I am that guy. Since 2004 I have written several hundred letters to the homes of publishers for the purpose of penetrating the internal church grape vine so as to do a end around on the church shunning policy. Every letter deals with a $4.250M unregistered securities swindle and how it connects to the 1987 Wt article "A Time to Speak When?" commentary on Lev.5:1 [see Barbara Anderson article "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals"].

It works good. Next letter is waiting for court houses to open for Zalkin Law Firm to file molestation law suites to make it into media. Some local elders whom have connection to the $4.250M fraud are going to have some bad days. There has been a 30 year contest between myself and WTB&TS Service Dept. as to who is the better mind fucker [crazy it has been 30 years].

The sad part it is these letters that is the only way I can communicate with my sons.

For me the importance of this site is to be able to confound the publishers that I know the breaking issues before they hear them at the Hall.

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Unique Words and Expressions Of Jehovah’s Witnesses

by minimus in

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system of things comes to mind.

what does that mean to anyone not a jw?.

how long have you been in the truth?

Bill Covert

"Submarine witness" only comes up for C.O. and D.O. visits and memorial.

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The bitter irony of revolutuions

by Bill Covert in

editorial in local paper by victor davis hansen , a classicist and historian at the hoover institution stanford university.. this is something i think you folks would find interesting.

unfortunately i am computer challenged due to the effectiveness of church shunning policies cutting off access to kids and grandkids educating me.

so if some one would be able to pull up and post the editorial, i think it would be of interest.

Bill Covert

Editorial in local paper by Victor Davis Hansen , a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution Stanford University.

This is something I think you folks would find interesting. Unfortunately I am computer challenged due to the effectiveness of church shunning policies cutting off access to kids and grandkids educating me. So if some one would be able to pull up and post the editorial, I think it would be of interest.

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new situation in world helpful to org?

by Magnum in

sometimes new situations can provide cover for one’s mistakes or intentions.

for example, suppose that i crack the windshield in my dad’s car one night.

i go home, park the car in its usual spot in the yard, and go to bed without telling my dad because i’m scared and i’m trying to think of a way out of the situation.

Bill Covert

Factor in that the virus has closed the court houses. When those court houses are opened there is going to be a huge amount of molestation law suites filed. That is going to real whiplash for the minds of the adherents. To liquidate Kingdom Halls is going to be very traumatic.

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Article "Would You Stand up to an Opressive Regime or Would Conform? Here's the Science"

by Bill Covert in

there is a article on firefox "would you stand up to an oppressive regime or would you conform?

here's the science" taken from "the conversation" by nick chater.

10-9-2019.. perhaps someone with computer skills can copy and post this article on this forum.

Bill Covert

Sir this whole post flew way over your head.

This post specifically deals with a WTB&TS deception that designed a Gestapo policy on setting up a mind control system in which people become informants. To understand the deception, the timing of the deception is a key to understanding that in the 1980's the WTB&TS had ceased being a source of spiritual enlightenment because Matt.24:34 turned out to be a work of Fred Franz fiction. In the first years of the 1980's there was a conspiracy hatched for the necessity of creating a cash flow. Which was the two day Kingdom Hall building program. Today the WTB&TS has a world wide real estate empire financed by interest paying commercial loans which provided funding for their operations while at the same time created a real estate empire as all Kingdom Halls were dedicated to Jehovah, aka the WTB&TS. The other major happing in the 1980's was the mind control of the "Obedience to the Organization mantra" necessary for the fleecing of the flock. Of which the 1987 article "A Time to Speak When?" was an integral part.

It was 7 years ago the 2013 RNWT was released and yet today there are only two people [me & Barbara Anderson] who understand the connection between the revision of Lev.5:1 and the commentary on paragraph 6 of the 1987 Sept.1 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" Lloyd Evans could not make the connection in 2013. To understand the deception used to fabricate an apostate informant policy is a major "new light". But more important is the understanding of how it relates to the blood transfusion policy is a major key that has the ability to magnify the importance of the policies on shunning and the two witness rule!

Am I on the wrong site for this kind of research?

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Article "Would You Stand up to an Opressive Regime or Would Conform? Here's the Science"

by Bill Covert in

there is a article on firefox "would you stand up to an oppressive regime or would you conform?

here's the science" taken from "the conversation" by nick chater.

10-9-2019.. perhaps someone with computer skills can copy and post this article on this forum.

Bill Covert

On the Outside Evidently this blew right over the top of your head. There is no hanky-panky. The picture depicts a clerk in a medical office informing on a single sister who evidently fornicated as this woman saw a receipt for payment for a abortion in her medical files and she is following church policy to inform.

The topic of this post is the science behind those who stand up to oppressive regimes. Please read the very last sentence the behavioral scientist Nick Chater writes. Understand that if someone is going to frontally take on the WTB&TS for 30 years they better have those ducks in a row and they better have some substance like the wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" and how it relates to the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5:1 then the understanding how this deception can be applied to the blood policy so as to get a legal opinion that failure of the WTB&TS to reveal that they use deception to formulate policy so as to give families of blood transfusion the knowledge up front for the families to make a knowledgeable decision as to whether or not they want to lay down life. There is going to be very few people on this site who have the ability to follow this line of thought and they will be the ones who can think two pay grades above Lloyd Evans.

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Article "Would You Stand up to an Opressive Regime or Would Conform? Here's the Science"

by Bill Covert in

there is a article on firefox "would you stand up to an oppressive regime or would you conform?

here's the science" taken from "the conversation" by nick chater.

10-9-2019.. perhaps someone with computer skills can copy and post this article on this forum.

Bill Covert

Thanks for the picture of "Mary" from the article "A Time to Speak When?" she was based on a real person. A African American named Sharon whom I met in 2006, she was married to my uncle. My uncle was moving my mother away to Arizona away to be away from my apostate influence. I don't know if she or my uncle is even alive due to the completeness of the shunning.

My very first post on this site was centered on this Wt. article as to the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5:1 relationship to paragraph #6. If you got some time revisit that post. You can read that Sharon was in reality a nurse who informed on a married JW sister she saw scheduled for a abortion. In a subsequent post on this article I was unable to get the folks on this forum to focus on the main importance in this article that of par. #6 where the writer was pulling off a deception by switching places of the sinner "the witness" with the "clean man who is doing public cursing" of Lev.5:1. The only thing people could see was the obvious that Sharon got blacked balled from the medical profession for breaking medical confidentiality. I could not get anybody to see that the real important piece was the engineered deception being perpetrated in par #6 where the WTB&TS were switching places with of the two individuals in Lev. 5:1. There is a man doing public cursing and there is a witness to that public cursing. It is the "witness" who is the SINNER! Not the man doing the public cursing! This is in Lev.5:1 because the "witness" who refused to answer the call to testify has now to offer up a sin sacrifice.

In the article "A Time to Speak When?" par #6 the man doing public cursing is the victim of a crime!!!! The "public place" is a Jewish court room, which is the market place at the city gate where all legal proceedings we carried out in public view unlike the back room of the Kingdom Hall. Google commentary on Lev.5:1 go to Bible Hub, there you can read that crime victims, members of the community have the right to put forth a "call to testify" see 2013 RNWT Lev.5:1.

See if you can see the mystery surrounding the importance of the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5:1 that to this day has been cloaked in silence, in that there has been absolutely no comment from the GB on the new light of the revised Lev.5:1? Lloyd Evans called me flippant because I questioned his inability to see the importance of the mystery in his 2013 blog on the "Silver Sword" , go to JW Survey look it up, see if you can see what went two pay grades above Lloyd's head.

The 1987 article "A Time to Speak When?" was written to fabricate a tool! It was a tool designed to control peoples minds. 1975 was the culmination of the Fred Franz fiction works! The first couple of years of the 1980's everybody was lost. It was 1984 I first started to see Matt.24:34 was headed down the tube by a quote in Wt. that said we would preach to the "sons and daughters" of those sighing and groaning of Ezk.9:4. There were two major events of the 1980's; one a scheme was hatched to create cash flow, the two day Kingdom Hall building program financing, two, the "obedience to the Organization mantra". In short the WTB&TS ceased as a religion with a message and changed into a real estate scam. To formulate a conspiracy to violate what ever banking laws pertaining to non profits engaging in commercial banking in order to create cash flow of interest income the church needed to control minds. The article "A Time to Speak When?" was nothing more than a tool created to subjugate minds of the sheep for the fleecing.

It took a couple of months of back and forth with Barbara Anderson for her to see the importance of the RNWT 2013 revision of Lev.5:1 in about the summer of 2014 or 15 to unlock the deception perpetrated by the GB in the article "A Time to Speak When?" . You can read her research on "A Time to Speak When?" in her article "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" at Watchtower Documents.

This Lev.5:1 project has been a 30 year project. From 1989 to 2004 it was letters between myself and Merton Campbell of the northern California Service Desk pertaining to a $4,250,000 unregistered securities swindle perpetrated by a swindler R.D. [well known to "Royal Flush Phil" who posted on this site] from the San Diego area. In those letters I took on the persona of the "cursing man" in Lev.5:1 to the point to where Barbara asked me "per chance was I the man in northern Calif she knew of from when she was in Bethel who used to write the most offensive letters to NY of anyone in the USA? that was a bingo. Since 2005 those letters were addressed to the homes of the publishers for the purpose of penetrating the internal grape vine of the church to mind fuck the elders who profited from the $4.250M swindle and those who were terrified of the "wolf pack" of Acts 20. I am the guy mentioned in the 2013 summer assembly talk "Human Apostates" who designed a new tactic of writing to the homes of the publishers.

This post is not me trying to toot my own whistle. There is something very important here that even Barbara failed to see. The article "A Time to Speak When?" was a fabricated piece that had a purpose in mind that of mind control. Paragraph 6 is the only thing that is REALLY important! What do you folks see as you read that article? You see the church counseling adherents to violate medical confidentiality to turn in sinners. In par. 6 you have the church perpetrating a deception by making the sinner "the witness" into an holy informant and making a crime victim into a sinner!

Let me show you why that small technical deception is so important. When Barbara and I were going back and forth Barbara went to Chicago to a SNAP convention. She told me what she learned was that when going after religion, go after POLICY. Policies are the structure an organization is built on. To go after church teachings is like trying to squeeze a hand full of grease. View policies as columns an organization is built on. Remember it was the columns that Osama Bin Laden went after in his first attack on the World trade Center [right idea wrong engineering]

Let me see if I can get you to track with me on this. The church informant policy/column of Lev.5:1 is a fraud, a deception, they switched the sinner with the clean man. Realize the article was for the purpose of fabricating a tool to control minds to facilitate the fleecing of the flock. Hence there was no thought given as to accuracy of Biblical interpretation as was the case in the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5:1. So can you see that the Lev.5:1 informant policy of the WTB&TS is a deception, a fraud?

Here is why this is so important. Because of how it relates to another policy that of blood transfusions. If we take and put the two WTB&TS policies/columns side by side we come up with the issue of murder! This is a legal position that is going to take an attorney to explain. Being as how the blood transfusion policy is enforceable by sanctions of disfellowshipment and loss of family through shunning and adherence results in the loss of human life. Yet at the same time the family of the patient has a fraud perpetrated upon them by the church omitting the fact that they use deceptions in the forming of policies that carry the sanctions of removal of family. So if a family is required to sacrifice life for church policy then is the church required to inform families that some of their policies are based on deceptions affording the families the opportunity of informed decision making? Can you see the point? [it is times like this when my 10th grade English teacher said there will be a time when I studied harder to learn how to communicate, rather than take shop classes, so true]

So now we have two church policies/columns side by side, lets bring a third policy/column that of the "two witness" rule. Can you now see that what is being done is elevating the importance and cruelty of the "two witness" rule that links the rape of children to a cold hearted church that by its cloaking its 2013 revision of Lev.5:1 in silence that would expose the deception of a fabricated policy designed to extract money to create a world wide real estate empire.

Now lets bring in a fourth policy/column that of violating both human and civil rights of splitting families by the sanction of shunning for any questioning the Gestapo fraudulent policies.

Can you folks see that if the formation on the WTB&TS policy of Gestapo informants was based on a outright deception that, that deception corrupts the blood, two witness rule and shunning policies. If you can see that then can you see that there is nothing "new under the sun" that the WTB&TS is just another fucking church that is willing to use deception to extract money out of the flock by means of interest paying real estate loans that create cash flow and deed over to the church a world wide real estate empire.

When Barbara Anderson wrote her article "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" , she did not give me any honorable mention as to being the source of the intellectual property as to why the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5:1 connected to paragraph 6 in the article "A Time to Speak When?". That smarted for a little bit but I realized that what she had done was elevate my application of "A Time to Speak When?" from a securities swindle into something of much greater importance, that of reporting of the rape of children to police, I was ok with it. Then she used her research into the Romy Maples molestation A&E TV program, to which Romy was molested in Fortuna Ca. which triggered a connection to my town Redding of which I was able to warn local government as to a possible connection between government action and church sex scandal, which end result was County Mental Health investing in my son alcoholism derived through the being separated from father and some first responder ptsd's. So I owe Barbara for the success of my son becoming a poster boy for Mental Health success which interview went through out the entire California Mental Health system and they even interviewed him on TV.

The point being Lev.5:1 went from me to Barbara she elevated it from being a financial fraud issue to being an issue where scripturally it required the church to turn molesters over to police. So now that Lev.5:1 comes back to me can you folks see that understanding a very technical connection between paragraph 6 in the article "A Time to Speak When?" and the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5:1 has the ability to take the "two witness" rule to a much higher level of importance when it is able to be shown just how cold hearted the GB is in concealing their own revision of Lev.5:1. When they released the 2013 RNWT they sealed their own fate!

This post is not for everybody. It took me almost two months to get Barbara to see the connection. Read her article "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminal's", it has been under appreciated. Realize I am an old truck mechanic trying to convey a technical point three pay grades above that of a wrench turner, so be kind.

Bill Covert

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Article "Would You Stand up to an Opressive Regime or Would Conform? Here's the Science"

by Bill Covert in

there is a article on firefox "would you stand up to an oppressive regime or would you conform?

here's the science" taken from "the conversation" by nick chater.

10-9-2019.. perhaps someone with computer skills can copy and post this article on this forum.

Bill Covert

That is the whole point of the Sept. 1 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?